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- Births Dec 1873 Tate John Newcastle T. 10b 4
Baptism appears in parish registers of St. Paul's Elswick, FHL Film # 1,068,650 (as John Tait)
John Tate known as "Casey" because he liked to sing the song "Casey Jones" according to the following letter to Patricia Tate, written by her grandmother Margaret (Hoy) Tate, in the possession of the author (spelling and factual errors are left intact):
"Patricia My dear[,] grandpa['s] name was Jack Tate Casey was a nickname he used to sing Casey Jones he was born in New-Castle on Tyne 1873 he had 3 brothers 2 sisters one halfbrother one halfsister Joe and Annie Dunn Ella Walters is her only daughter his brothers names were Charley Bill Lance sisters Lewease Margaret. Nance Zollinger who sent you that coat is Margarets daughter near Chicago Betty Thorpe is Bill Tates daughter Florence Main near redford is Charleys daugther he buried twins in our cemetery whyle living here with Diptheray-Lewesa married Piercy Robson had 2 girls in New-Castle her husband was a toolmaker and went to South Afericka after the Boar war when England took it, her + 1 kids lived with us she helped me in the Druids arms for her keep Casey was able to work and we saved enough to buy a 2 family flat apt Joe Dunn was a builder and contracter Caseys father and all the boys was bricklayers + Carpendters he Joe was worth 10 thousand Pounds in 1900 later he took a partner and went bankrope 1911 Casey came out here in 1911 to my brother Bob in Delray he came back at Xms + left in Spring we sold our Flat and made a good profit I had to wait until it was all settled the 3 boys + myself booked on the Cunard liner Marentania it had won the blue ribbon for Speed-Casey told us to that they white star ships but the sailed Southampton and Liverpool was better for us thats how I missed being on the Tintae [word crossed out with TITANIC written above it] that went down with 2000 by hitting an iceberg we had a bad scare when the notice went up in our dinning room we all got we were only 1 day behind at NY we got the train 4 pm got here next night at 7 no one to meet us Bob + Casey loaked for us but it took me sometime to get up to they enterance with 31 kids traveling rigs suitcases so I boaked all my stuff and a man helped me to a street car the Condocter took me to the end of the line past my street but brought me back Bob + Jack were not home yet"
1911 Census of England Ref. RG14 PN30551 RG78 PN1751 RD558 SD1 ED13 SN19
42 Joan Street Benwell Newcastle upon Tyne (4 room dwelling, form submitted by Margaret Tate)
John Tate head age 38 married 9 years, bricklayer builder (worker) born Newcastle upon Tyne
Margaret Tate wife age 34 married 4 children, 3 surviving, born Craigs, Co. Antrim, Ireland (resident)
Joseph Tate son age 7 born Newcastle upon Tyne
Robert Tate son age 5 born Newcastle upon Tyne
John Tate son age 2 born Newcastle upon Tyne
William Hoy boarder widower (married 10 years crossed out) age 40 general laborer (4 children, 2 living, 2 dead) born Craigs, Co. Antrim, Ireland (resident)
Robert James Hoy boarder age 7 born Newcastle upon Tyne
Andrew Hoy boarder age 7 [sic] born Craigs, Co. Antrim, Ireland (resident)
Ist crossing- arrived April 24, 1911 on Cedric from Liverpool at New York; 16 Stone Street NY friend Emil Lind. 5'9, fair/dark/grey.
2nd crossing- February 17-24, 1912. Lusitania from Liverpool at New York 5'8, fair/dark/brown. friend ____ Hoy 18 Stone Street, New York. Previously in America 1910 (sic)-1911. (marked as a non-immigrant alien) destination New York; last permanent residence Detroit Michigan. Address of wife Margaret Tate-42 Joan Street, Newcastle. Microfilm #1809
3rd crossing- February 28, 1920 Cedric from Liverpool to New York, 5'7 dark/dark/brown, 706 Woodrow Avenue Detroit.
DETROIT CITY DIRECTORIES- Joseph DUNN, HOY families, TATEs
1913 R.L. Polk's Detroit City Directory
Jos. Dunn, mason, bds 65 White Street
Robert Hoy, contractor, 18 White Street
John Tate, mason, 65 White Street
1914 R.L. Polk's Detroit City Directory
Robert Hoy, carpenter, 18 White
Jos Dunn, carpenter, 65 White
John Tate, bricklayer, 1 Sylvan (this intersects with McKinley)
Charles Tate, bricklayer, bds. 1353 McKinley Ave.
William Hoy, laborer, 1353 McKinley (this is the brother of Margaret (Hoy) Tate and Robert Hoy]
1915 R.L. Polk's Detroit City Directory
Jos Dunn contractor 37 Woodmere Ave
Robt Hoy 18 White
Wm Hoy contractor 1353 McKinley
Charles Tate mason 445 Distel (this is near Woodmere)
John Tate bricklayer 706 Woodrow
Lancelot Tate mason 445 Distel
1916 Polk's Detroit City Directory
Joseph Dunne, contractor, 37 Woodmere
Robert Hoy, contractor 18 White
John Tate, bricklayer, 706 Woodrow
1917 R.L. Polk's Detroit City Directory
John Tate, mason 706 Woodrow
Jos Dunn, contractor 37 Woodmere
Wm Hoy and Robert Hoy, carpenters, 18 White
1918 R.L. Polk's Detroit City Directory
Joseph Dunn 37 Woodmere
Robert & Wm Hoy, laborers, 18 White
John Tate, bricklayer, 706 Woodrow
1920 Census of US
John Tate household living at 706 Woodrow (owned free); he is brickmason/contractor paid worker; wife Margaret, sons Joseph, Robert, John Jr. at home; Joseph is working as (looks like, poor handwriting) "tool maker" for "drill co." (paid worker).
Source Citation
Year: 1920; Census Place: Detroit Ward 16, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: T625_815; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 510
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1920 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
DETROIT CITY DIRECTORIES- HOY families, TATEs
1923 Polk's Detroit City Directory
John Tate, bricklayer, h6084 Woodrow
Robert J. Hoy, chf msngr Solvay r 6084 Woodrow
1929 Polk's Detroit City Directory
John Tate (Margt) mason, 5973 Epworth Blvd
John Tate Jr., appr. same address
1930 Census of US
John and Margaret are living at 5973 Epworth. John Jr. is with them (no occupation), but noted as "absent" on census night
Source Citation
Year: 1930; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 0511; FHL microfilm: 2340788
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002
Another, later, crossing- John Tate with his wife, Margaret, on SS Corinthia from Liverpool, 11-20 January 1936. (Source Citation Arrival New York, United States, Microfilm series T715, roll 5754, line 1).
"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KH9P-JSC : accessed 10 Sep 2012), Margaret Tate in household of John Tate, Ward 16, Detroit, Detroit City, Wayne, Michigan, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 84-949, sheet 2B, family 45, NARA digital publication T627, roll 1868
"Michigan Death Certificates, 1921-1952," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFW6-FDS : 13 March 2018), John Tate, 29 Aug 1944; citing Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States, Division for Vital Records and Health Statistics, Lansing; FHL microfilm 1,972,910.
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1873 - 1944 (71 years)
