Joseph Haliday

Male Abt 1765 - 1852  (~ 87 years)


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  • Name Joseph Haliday 
    Born Abt 1765  County Antrim, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Occupation professor of music, music instrument inventor & maker, composer 
    Occupation 1810  Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    master of the band belonging to the Cavan Regiment of Militia (acc. to his patent) 
    _UID 2546019ACB85DB43BA743E987F9F39AE7DCF 
    Died 1852  Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • at the North Dublin Workhouse
    Person ID I811  Victoria Boutilier's Genealogy Pages
    Last Modified 14 Feb 2020 

    Family Mary Philpot,   b. Abt 1778, County Wicklow, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Nov 1836, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 58 years) 
    Married Abt 1806  Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Emily Agnes Haliday,   b. Abt 1810, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Sep 1869, New York, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 59 years)
     2. Eliza Haliday,   b. Abt 1812, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Feb 1832, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 20 years)
     3. Jane Haliday,   b. 1812, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. in infancy Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Maria Haliday,   b. Abt 1814, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Sep 1836, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 22 years)
     5. Lucy Haliday,   b. Abt 1815, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Nov 1900, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 85 years)
     6. Joseph Agnew Haliday,   b. Abt 1816, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Mar 1835, Hillview, Gorey, Wexford, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 19 years)
     7. Eleanor Haliday,   b. 1818, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Sep 1883, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 65 years)
     8. Sally Haliday,   b. Abt 1820, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     9. Sarah Haliday,   b. 6 Aug 1823, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Feb 1902, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years)
     10. William George Haliday,   b. Abt 1824, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 23 May 2017 
    Family ID F185  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • JOSEPH HALIDAY

      Bandmaster of the Cavan militia
      Published pro-Irish nationalist poetry in newspapers
      Published political/musical commentary in newspapers, sometimes with the alias "I.O.U.", elsewise anonymously, including an anonymous pamphlet called "Secrets Worth Knowing or Rules for Keeping a Music Shop" (Dublin, John Scott, 1817)
      Patented the Keyed Bugle (aka the Kent Bugle or the Royal Kent Bugle after the Duke of Kent) in 1810 (May 5, 1810, patent no. 3334); allegedly also wrote a book around the same time called "The Bugle Horn." (According to "The Repertory...of Patent Inventions" (Vol. XVII- Second Series, Nichols and Son, printers, London, 1810) p. 127, the Cavan Militia was quartered in Kilkenny when the patent application was made)

      The keyed bugle is considered a member of the cornett family and was popular for a number of decades in Europe and America in both popular and serious music, before being supplanted by the cornet.

      Ralph Dudgeon, Professor at SUNY-Cortland, is the authority on the Keyed Bugle. His book is "The Keyed Bugle" (Scarecrow Press). He wrote an article, "Joseph Haliday, Inventor of the Keyed Bugle," for the Journal of The American Musical Instrument Society, vol IX, year 1983.

      Joseph Haliday's birthplace There was speculation that he was a native of Yorkshire; and most likely without cause, he has been connected to the rather distinguished Anglo-Irish Haliday family of Carrick-on-Suir in County Tipperary, as some members of those Halidays also lived in Dublin (including Charles Haliday and William Haliday-see "Dictionary of National Biography"). In a letter to his daughter Emily (Haliday) Meyer of June 27, 1857,(*SIC -year is wrong as Joseph Haliday died in 1852) Joseph Haliday indicated that he was 85 years old.

      According to Dudgeon, "In 1812 a regiment of the Cavan Militia moved to Wexford, and Haliday's band went along. The band played at the "Green Walks," a fashionable resort in Wexford, and they became a favorite topic of conversation in social circles there. During this time, Haliday courted and married a Miss Margaret Philpot of County Wicklow. 'Subsequently, they had a large family, Eliza, Maria, Lucy, Ellen, Sally, Sarah, Emily, William George, and Joseph A. Haliday; several of the other children died during these years, a total of 13.' Both boys played the violin, and Joseph A. performed in a white silk suit for the royal family in Dublin when he was seven years old. Besides instructing his own children, Haliday was an early teacher (from 1813 to 1815) of another child, Michael William Balfe, who was later to embark on a successful career as a composer in London and Paris. Balfe's father was a dancing instructor in Wexford and was a friend of Haliday. For Saint Patrick's Day in 1815, Balfe composed a "Polacca," which Haliday played with his band, and which was pronounced an extraordinary effort for a child of seven." The Halidays returned to Dublin in 1816.

      Joseph Haliday is believed to have sold his patent rights to Dublin instrument maker Matthew Pace for fifty pounds. (Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians, 5th Ed, "Keyed Bugle" entry by R. Morley-Pegge 1959, vol 4 p. 733); Pace moved his business to London in 1816.

      Haliday did not see financial gain from his invention. When Dublin instrument maker and music teacher John Bernard Logier (who in 1813 wrote "Introduction to the Art of Playing on the Royal Kent Bugle") attempted to gain profit from Haliday's invention and patent (perhaps with the help of Haliday's lawyer, Robert Tilly), Haliday fired back in an anti-Logier pamphlet "Strictures on Mr. Logier's Pamphlets, Entitled Syllabuses of the Examination of His Pupils on His System of Musical Education, with Observations Showing the Inefficacy of the System", which went through two editions in 1817 and 1818.

      Richard Michael Levey, for sixty years conductor of the Theatre Royal Orchestra in Dublin, characterized Haliday as "a versatile genius, but of excitable temper" acc. to Saunders, "O'Donnell Abu," The Irish Book Lover, vol 26, Jan/Feb 1939, p. 35-36; see also W.H. Grattan Flood, "Joseph Halliday: Inventor of the Royal Kent Bugle" Musical Opinion vol. 42, no. 500, May 1919, p. 501-502

      Haliday is credited with the 1803 band arrangement of a tune that was later attached (with much success) to the well-known Irish patriotic song "O'Donnell Abu" (words written in 1843 by J.W. McCann) see Georges-Denis Zimmermann, "Irish Political Street Ballads and Rebel Songs" (Geneva, 1966)
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      Haliday wrote a poem called "The Emerald Isle" according to "The Poets of Ireland" by D.J. O'Donoghue (Dublin: Hodges, Figgis & Co./London: Oxford UP), 1912

      Joseph Haliday seems to have lived all over Dublin during the latter part of his life, as the following list-in-progress of family addresses indicates:

      1810-Joseph Haliday is in Kilkenny with the Cavan Militia, a daughter named Lucy is baptized at St. Mary's COI in Kilkenny.
      1812 August Jane Halliday is baptized to Joseph and Mary Halliday of Francis Street at St. Werburgh's C. of I.
      1814 not listed in Wilson's [See FHL Film # 422,173]
      1815 not listed in Wilson's [See FHL Film # 422,173]
      1816 not listed in Wilson's [See FHL Film # 422,173]
      1817 Joseph Haliday is musical instrument maker and living at 13 Gt Ship Street (Wilson's Directory)[See FHL Film # 422,173]
      1818 Joseph Haliday is professor of music and living at 13 Gt Ship Street (Wilson's Directory)
      1820-residence 13 Gt Ship St (Pigots Directory)
      1824-residence 6 Gt. Longford St. (Ita Margaret Hogan, Anglo-Irish Music 1780-1830, Cork UP, 1966, p. 203)
      1824 Joseph Haliday is professor of music and living at "Gt Longford St" (this is near Gt Ship St) (Pigots Directory)
      1838 Joseph Haliday is professor of music and living at "Mabbot Street" (Pettigrew & Oulton's Dublin Directory)
      1839, Oct 22 address is 33 Mabbott St. ("Dublin Register," which mentions that Jos. Haliday "attended an affair with his second daughter, Maria")
      1839 Joseph Haliday prof of music is living at 33 Mabbott Street (source directory to be determined)
      1840 Joseph Haliday (no occupation) is living at 54 Townsend Street near Trinity College (Pettigrew & Oulton's Dublin Directory)
      1843, 1844 Joseph Haliday prof of music is living at 5 Mark Street near Trinity College (Post Office Annual Directories)
      1846-address 6 Mark Street (Flood, citing the 'Dublin Directory' [Pettigrew & Oulton's?] for that year)
      1846-Joseph Haliday, music teacher, living at 6 Mark (Slater's)
      1846- address 55 New Street (family letter)
      1849- address 1 Rosemont, 18 New Street (family letter) [address of daughter Lucy Haliday]
      1850, June 7 address 22 Grangegorman, No. Dublin (family letter) [address of daughter Lucy Haliday]
      1851 Census (Dublin City) (only a list of heads of household survives)
      Joseph Haliday is living at 22 Grangegorman Upper in Grangegorman civil parish parish in North Dublin.
      William G. Haliday is living at Abbey St, Middle, in St. Thomas parish in North Dublin.
      1852- Haliday was living at Grangegorman parish when he was admitted (twice) to the North Dublin Workhouse, where he died.
      1857* SIC YEAR is WRONG-(family letter acc. to Dudgeon) 28 Grangegorman, No. Dublin, c/o Mr. Dill [note Mr. Dill was possibly either Benjamin Dill, Vestry Clerk, or Rev. Richard Dill]*

      The Workhouse records do not indicate where Joseph was buried, but do provide his place of birth as "County Antrim" and his occupation as musician, and also state that his son [William George] had refused to provide his support.

      Great Ship Street is part of St. Bride's Civil Parish.
      Great Longford Street is part of St. Peter's Civil Parish.
      Mabbott Street is part of St. Thomas Civil Parish.
      Townsend & Mark Streets are part of St. Mark's Civil Parish.
      New Street is part of St. Nicholas Without Civil Parish (some of Lucy Haliday's children were baptized here)

      Allegedly Joseph Haliday also once ran a musical instruments shop.

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      Edward Haliday, surgeon and apothecary 19 Townsend Street (1830s Dublin city directories)
      "" " 14 (or 13) Great Brunswick Street 1840's
      Parish of St Marks

      E. G. Haliday, surgeon, Brunswick Street South, attended Course of Instruction and Practice in Midwifery in Anglesea Lying-In Hospital, listed in directory 1843, 1844

      I wonder if Eleanor Haliday is related to E.G. Haliday and that is how she met Joseph Rothwell